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mad a better case for barack obama and joe biden and barack obama and joe biden had ever made. the other thing about bill clinton's speech is he had the ultimate line in it -- "this economy was so bad even i could not have fixed it." >> you pointed out in the opening of the show what was the worst political moment, which was the clint eastwood wasting 12 minutes of prime time when just before, you have had these truly heart rending stories -- artwarmi stoes aut te humaty of the republican challenger, and also a bio which was not shown. that was terrible. >> the reason why clinton's speech worked was because people know it was bill clinton giving that speech. so many speeches are written by someone else, and they read that way, and the public is sick of it. >> finally, predictions for the year ahead in the supreme court. >> the supreme court -- it will be a gonzoear involving the supreme court possibly striking down the voting rights act, the obstruction of gay marriage, and even weather you can patent -- whether you can patent a genie. >> happy new year to you. she gets the las
mad a better case for barack obama and joe biden and barack obama and joe biden had ever made. the other thing about bill clinton's speech is he had the ultimate line in it -- "this economy was so bad even i could not have fixed it." >> you pointed out in the opening of the show what was the worst political moment, which was the clint eastwood wasting 12 minutes of prime time when just before, you have had these truly heart rending stories -- artwarmi stoes aut te humaty of the...
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they want to lear from joe biden or one of his representatives. how did you arrive at this deal and what does it mean for us. you're watching for senators idea logical senators on both sides of this deal, liberals up set that the income threshold at 450, conservatives up set that there are no spending cuts in this deal t is all revenue. will somebody slow it down and block it. you have to watch it on the stat side because that pushes the senate over the cliff too. on the house side, once they're aware of what this deal is, how many votes can john boehner get on the republican sde uil you get to 218 through any combination of republican and democratic votes at this point. >> woodruff: not much celebrating tonight in the capitol. or at the capitol itself. todd zwillich, thank you very much. >> always a pleasure, judy. >> still to come on the newshour >> suarez: still to come on the newshour, causes and treatments for blood clots; a look back at the presidential race; building jobs skills while in high school; the emancipation proclamation; and 2012
they want to lear from joe biden or one of his representatives. how did you arrive at this deal and what does it mean for us. you're watching for senators idea logical senators on both sides of this deal, liberals up set that the income threshold at 450, conservatives up set that there are no spending cuts in this deal t is all revenue. will somebody slow it down and block it. you have to watch it on the stat side because that pushes the senate over the cliff too. on the house side, once...
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vice president biden and treasury secretary timothy geithner also attend. but there was little to suggest the makings of an 11th hour bargain. a source familiar with the meeting told the newshour its president is sticking with his offer from last friday. it included keeping the bush era tax break force the middle class but raising tax rates on incomes over 250,000 dollars a year. president also wants to extend unemployment benefits for some 2 million americans who will lose them in the new year. and a proposal would delay any spending cuts. the president asked for an up or down vote on his plan unless there is a counter proposal that will pass both the house and senate. a little more than an hour after the meeting began, several participants were seen leaving. >> and back at the capital the senate's democratic majority leader harry reid and republican minority leader mitch mcconnell offered their takes on the meeting. >> we had a good meeting down at the white house. we are engaged in discussions, the majority leader, myself and the white house, in t hopes
vice president biden and treasury secretary timothy geithner also attend. but there was little to suggest the makings of an 11th hour bargain. a source familiar with the meeting told the newshour its president is sticking with his offer from last friday. it included keeping the bush era tax break force the middle class but raising tax rates on incomes over 250,000 dollars a year. president also wants to extend unemployment benefits for some 2 million americans who will lose them in the new...
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>> well, joe biden and mitch mcconnell are older school politicians. they remember a time when compromise was how you close deals like this. and there are a lot of, i guess, mostly younger members up there who don't remember that time. they view their job is to go to washington and create conflict and have grid lock. that doesn't mean that their caucuses will certainly be with them. that is no surprise to me that vice president joe biden is talking with them. it is not a slam dunk, i suspect it will, especially if it passes the senate with a significantly bipartisan vote. you have some real deal makers. >> what do you think that this really means in your opinion, to the average american taxpayer? whether, you know, with the threat we may go over the cliff, and now we may really not. what difference did this really, really mean and if you could put it in plain words for us who are not economists, just explain what it means for all of us? >> well, first of all it means that if you're someone who is a beneficiary of long-term unemployment benefits, you're
>> well, joe biden and mitch mcconnell are older school politicians. they remember a time when compromise was how you close deals like this. and there are a lot of, i guess, mostly younger members up there who don't remember that time. they view their job is to go to washington and create conflict and have grid lock. that doesn't mean that their caucuses will certainly be with them. that is no surprise to me that vice president joe biden is talking with them. it is not a slam dunk, i...
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joe biden is saying, yeah, 2016. maybe. >> he is not going through the ritual of saying -- he is clearly it does interest me. it's hard to -- i would separate this from presidential politics. as hard as that is for somebody like us. >> come on. it's tough. i do think this represents the fact that at the end of the day particularly in your intense dead looirn situation personal relationships do matter. two men that have been in the senate and know each other. i don't know of if i particular affection, they know each other and they know what makes the other tick. they know what the other incentives are. the personal relationships can matter. there's no question. i think it will give sort of credibility to joe biden's standing, and they will show the value of that kind of institutional knowledge and seniority. >> they say it's the deal and it's the program meter is 450,000 with an extension of the patch in amt and extension of unemployment benefits and all these sorts of things. are both sides able even if they're not r
joe biden is saying, yeah, 2016. maybe. >> he is not going through the ritual of saying -- he is clearly it does interest me. it's hard to -- i would separate this from presidential politics. as hard as that is for somebody like us. >> come on. it's tough. i do think this represents the fact that at the end of the day particularly in your intense dead looirn situation personal relationships do matter. two men that have been in the senate and know each other. i don't know of if i...
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to the vice president and said, perhaps joe biden could help jump start things. that's where we are now. there was a lot of fatigue and weariness as the day went on the without a package for members to consider. there was a lot of back and forth, as you know, about different elements of a potential deal and what was angering one side or another. what we expected now is, barring some late night breakthrough which seems unlikely, we would hear from the senate tomorrow, late morning, get a sense where they are, if they're any further along, and then if there is a package, it would be revealed to each side, meaning the house and the senate, let members take a look at it, and gauge if they're ready to go and vote on it. it is the final day of the year tomorrow. and so the time could not be any shorter. and that's putting pressure on everyone involved. we just don't have a sense if there is optimism, but at least we're told they are still talking. chris? >> obviously, vice president biden has not been involved in these negotiations up until now. do we know why the whit
to the vice president and said, perhaps joe biden could help jump start things. that's where we are now. there was a lot of fatigue and weariness as the day went on the without a package for members to consider. there was a lot of back and forth, as you know, about different elements of a potential deal and what was angering one side or another. what we expected now is, barring some late night breakthrough which seems unlikely, we would hear from the senate tomorrow, late morning, get a sense...
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vice president biden -- i know who that is. that is senator mcconnell's spokesperson up there, don stewart who is regaling reporters with some kind of details about behind the scenes. stu is telling the reporters from the republican point of view. ed, what about from the white house point of view you about how this deal came to be and what it looks like? >> as mike laid out he s exactly right that vice president biden, of course, played a pivotal role. known as the mcconnell whisperer as somebody who when you go back to the debt ceiling debate about a year and a half ago he unsticked that when it was stopped up. he was brought in sort of as the closer again yesterday to try to move this along. it is not a completely done deal yet. as you noted this sequester came about all because the cuts were supposed to be so onerous that lawmakers in both parties would never let them go through and yet they he went right up to the edge here. this is important this s just as mike said a two month buydown. shut out the cuts for two months. co
vice president biden -- i know who that is. that is senator mcconnell's spokesperson up there, don stewart who is regaling reporters with some kind of details about behind the scenes. stu is telling the reporters from the republican point of view. ed, what about from the white house point of view you about how this deal came to be and what it looks like? >> as mike laid out he s exactly right that vice president biden, of course, played a pivotal role. known as the mcconnell whisperer as...
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though joe biden hear you out because i'm not sure i'm a gentleman look at them look at the moves on him you know i don't know i don't know if he's a if he's a this guy but he you know he looks like a president vice presidential guy joe biden and whatever the case joe biden he's known for his big about big mouth he's known for his even bigger teeth when obama recently passed his major health care act at the podium biden gave him a hug and as he hugged him he said in a negative way he said this is a big deal guys run run the grab so we can hear what he had to say mr joe biden vice president. the president the united states of america barack obama. thank you everybody. not only not only was heard by barack obama but it was heard by everyone on stage even people started tweeting about it saying that you are mr joe biden you're absolutely right in the you know that guy's story or is it just me or has a bronco obama in some way been involved in almost all of the open mikes whether he's talking to someone or being talked about or it's his vice president he's you know involved in a lot of a
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vice president biden also here at the white house. he can of course be an incredibly important player in this entire process. president obama's strategy has to some extent been to wage a public campaign putting the pressure on congress to get something done during that exclusive interview earlier today you heard the president accuse republicans of being solely focused on protecting the taxes of wealthier americans. of course, president obama wants to see the bush era tax cuts extended for those making $250,000 or less while letting it raise on those making more than that. that $250,000 figure is up for debate and is up for compromise. i can tell you that republican leaders on the hill fired back saying he was more interested on assigning blame than getting something done and leading while they are trying to hammer out a deal. that is where things stand right now at the white house. clearly watching these developments quite closely. >> kristen welker, thank you. we will be checking back throughout the afternoon, as well. nchlts for mor
vice president biden also here at the white house. he can of course be an incredibly important player in this entire process. president obama's strategy has to some extent been to wage a public campaign putting the pressure on congress to get something done during that exclusive interview earlier today you heard the president accuse republicans of being solely focused on protecting the taxes of wealthier americans. of course, president obama wants to see the bush era tax cuts extended for those...
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it's led by joe biden. he has already convened it twice. he has met with law enforcement officials, with mayors, and more excitingly, you've got people on the hill already announcing bills that are going to put forward on day one of the new congress. we've got senator feinstein proposing an assault weapons ban. we've got someone else with a high capacity ammunition clips. think it's maybe lautenberg, and you have the president publicly saying now that he supports those bills. this is the most momentum to date. this is the most we're going to see for a while. they have to build now or go home. >> that's the question. we go back to the question of capitol hill gridlock, and as much as people want to sort of talk about the issue and it makes everyone feel good to say they're on the right side of the issue, but can something like this get through the house of representatives? >> two dirty secrets. the first one is the white house before the election is actually going to do something on gun control if he got re-elected. second dirty secret is yo
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. >> you mentioned vice president biden swooping in at the last minute like superman and being able to secure this deal and that's certainly the perception a lot of people had. we heard mitch mcconnell speaking on the floor and he said this shouldn't have taken this long. certainly, there have been discussions about this for months. so in terms of the political drama that was playing out behind the scenes, how did this happen this waif? all of the sudden, at the 11th hour, well passed the 11th hour, we're voting at two in the morning on this measure. >> well, just as the way things happen in congress. nobody does anything until their back is completely against the wall. and i've got to say, maura, it's not all said and done for all the reasons we've outlined. the house of representatives still has to act. there could yet be some hiccups if not major explosions along the way here. but, you know, i mean, in order for people to come together, they've really got to have their backs up against the wall. and if you can say one thing, one remarkable thing about what's happening here on the se
. >> you mentioned vice president biden swooping in at the last minute like superman and being able to secure this deal and that's certainly the perception a lot of people had. we heard mitch mcconnell speaking on the floor and he said this shouldn't have taken this long. certainly, there have been discussions about this for months. so in terms of the political drama that was playing out behind the scenes, how did this happen this waif? all of the sudden, at the 11th hour, well passed the...
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if there were to be a deal, of course, biden has been deeply involved since yesterday. when mitch mcconnell reached out to him. that's where it stands rielgts now. chris, part of this, we talked a little bit about procedure. the senate can do just about anything it wants if every senator just agreed to do this lickety-split, that is a huge stretch. at that point, all bets are off. mitch mcconnell has got to get on the same page as john boehner on the house 06 representatives. mcconnell is not going to walk the political bank. so a lot of variables here. the plan, all along, was for the senate to pass this thing and therefore, sort of box in the house. john boehner could present it to his gop conference, his conservatives and say, look, this is the only deal we can get. however, as you report it, it's quite clear now that technically, at least, we're going to be going over that cliff. the house, while they say they could call themselves back into session at any moment for all intense and purposes, they're gone until noon tomorrow. house leaders, their aides say tomorrow
if there were to be a deal, of course, biden has been deeply involved since yesterday. when mitch mcconnell reached out to him. that's where it stands rielgts now. chris, part of this, we talked a little bit about procedure. the senate can do just about anything it wants if every senator just agreed to do this lickety-split, that is a huge stretch. at that point, all bets are off. mitch mcconnell has got to get on the same page as john boehner on the house 06 representatives. mcconnell is not...
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you have worked with vice president biden. as you know, he's been called on by mitch mcconnell to help with these last-minute talks. what do you think his role is now with so little time left? >> well, the vice president goes way back with senator mcconnell, and i've been in the room when they have talked, and it doesn't sound like two partisans separated by deep ideology. it sounds like guys who know how to bang out a deal. that said, if that were up to them perhaps they could get somewhere, but there are so many other forces swirling around this right now. i'm kind of in the same camp as kristen and the other political analysts we just heard from. if we are starting to hear things getting further apart rather than closer apart at this late date, i don't know that a decades old friendship between a couple of senators -- former senator and current one are going to make that much difference at this point. >> paul, let me play for you what senator lindsey graham said this morning on "fox news sunday" about the chances of a small
you have worked with vice president biden. as you know, he's been called on by mitch mcconnell to help with these last-minute talks. what do you think his role is now with so little time left? >> well, the vice president goes way back with senator mcconnell, and i've been in the room when they have talked, and it doesn't sound like two partisans separated by deep ideology. it sounds like guys who know how to bang out a deal. that said, if that were up to them perhaps they could get...
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. -- joe biden. even if he runs in 2016 for the presidency. >> named the head of the whole gun thing. >> i'm telling you -- this position. >> we'll have to wait. >> his political style is seen unfortunately for him as too aseckic for broad appeal. maybe you should talk to his wife about running for president. his wife is terrific. >> he may or may not run for president, john. but a lot of people love joe biden. he's an authentic voice and democrats in particular love him. maybe you got a problem -- >> we're talking about his wife as a candidate. >> jill? >> why not? >> because she's shown no political ambition. she teaches at a community college and she has a fine career. >> okay. best political theater of 2012. pat? >> i hate to say it but i think the democratic convention in charlotte. it was a real bell winger of a convention, very entertaining. >> eleanor? >> i second that and i loved clint eastwood interviewing the empty chair. that was classic. >> you really thought he had it all together. >> e
. -- joe biden. even if he runs in 2016 for the presidency. >> named the head of the whole gun thing. >> i'm telling you -- this position. >> we'll have to wait. >> his political style is seen unfortunately for him as too aseckic for broad appeal. maybe you should talk to his wife about running for president. his wife is terrific. >> he may or may not run for president, john. but a lot of people love joe biden. he's an authentic voice and democrats in particular...
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even vice president biden might come over if they're close to a deal. more narrow issues are still dividing them. they've maid a lot of progress. they're just not there yet. milissa? >> i'm glad you just described that to us all about the mood in the senate tonight. correct me if i'm wrong, it almost sounds hopeful there. >> is a sense it's worth staying here and they're looking at these details. at the same time people are tired there are some frustrations there is a sense they could have gotten this done sooner. you hear that plenty. but those who have been at the table and looking at this do see compromise that has happened on both sides. you have republicans and democrats who made big compromises on taxes. the president moving up from his $250,000 threshold to 400 and 450 for individuals and couples. and republicans who wanted to see no tax increases for any level did agree, at least at this stage, that they would support tax increases. i say at this stage because this agreement should it happen then has to be voted on of course by the full senate a
even vice president biden might come over if they're close to a deal. more narrow issues are still dividing them. they've maid a lot of progress. they're just not there yet. milissa? >> i'm glad you just described that to us all about the mood in the senate tonight. correct me if i'm wrong, it almost sounds hopeful there. >> is a sense it's worth staying here and they're looking at these details. at the same time people are tired there are some frustrations there is a sense they...
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certainly joe biden comes out 06 this looking great. he came in sort of his superman of the underdog flying in at the last minute to save the day. the president, a mixed bag although he really played his hand to the maximum. a lot of people looked at this and thought he learned his lessons from previous perusing budget battles, health care battles, stimulus battles and republicans in congress and really had them in a corner, had them boxed in really well. however, some of his supporters, you already hear them expressing a great deal of dismay.
certainly joe biden comes out 06 this looking great. he came in sort of his superman of the underdog flying in at the last minute to save the day. the president, a mixed bag although he really played his hand to the maximum. a lot of people looked at this and thought he learned his lessons from previous perusing budget battles, health care battles, stimulus battles and republicans in congress and really had them in a corner, had them boxed in really well. however, some of his supporters, you...
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maybe 7:30 where vice president biden will update the caucus on the state of the deal. senate democrats we're told have not signed off on the deal. after the caucus there is an expectation of votes around possibly 10:00 p.m. maybe later. as we get word about the senate action. and knowing about it. but it will be a while. 10:00 p.m. we're going to be back here at 8:00 p.m. you were saying about this deal, we rudely cut you off before. that the entitlement reform is not specific on the republican side. democratic side, frankly there is no spending cuts in this deal. no additional spending cuts. >> there this is the other part of this. obama doesn't -- obama believes in stimulating the economy through spending. he doesn't believe in making all the cuts. so again, like you are asking him to adopt a world view he doesn't have. >> bret: even though he talked about it many times. >> he does talk about it. >> expounding upon it. fixing social security and medicare. >> anybody who reads paul krugman, grand pubah of economics on the left his worry that the deficit will be reduce
maybe 7:30 where vice president biden will update the caucus on the state of the deal. senate democrats we're told have not signed off on the deal. after the caucus there is an expectation of votes around possibly 10:00 p.m. maybe later. as we get word about the senate action. and knowing about it. but it will be a while. 10:00 p.m. we're going to be back here at 8:00 p.m. you were saying about this deal, we rudely cut you off before. that the entitlement reform is not specific on the...
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we reported that joe biden, the environment, is in the building. our photographer just saw him go into harry reid's office. he's currently meeting, i don't know, one-on-one, or maybe with other members of the senate democratic leadership in the office of senator harry reid, which is just around the corner from where i'm standing right now. you see this crowd of people behind me. those are reporters waiting to see if the vice president is going to come through because he's eventually going to come through he and meet with all of the senate democrats for the meeting you were talking about with the senator. sounds as though they're doing a little talking about -- a little bit of a game plan about how they're going to present this to the caucus, and obviously, that's a very delicate issue for reasons we have been talking about. the democratic caucus, many of them are not happy. in fact, i have to tell you i was told by one democratic senator when they put up on a screen, they put up yesterday in a meeting that democrats were having, they put up almost
we reported that joe biden, the environment, is in the building. our photographer just saw him go into harry reid's office. he's currently meeting, i don't know, one-on-one, or maybe with other members of the senate democratic leadership in the office of senator harry reid, which is just around the corner from where i'm standing right now. you see this crowd of people behind me. those are reporters waiting to see if the vice president is going to come through because he's eventually going to...
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so, again, vice president biden heading to the hill. just three hours until we head over the fiscal cliff. the large concern here is the impact that going over the cliff would have on the economy. now economists say look, it's not going to be a windfall on wednesday. it's not going to be a complete disaster all at once. but what could happen is that the markets could begin to respond on wednesday. they're closed of course tomorrow for the holiday. and then over time, the average american could wind up paying about $2,000 more in their taxes. and if we went over the cliff and stayed over the cliff for a significant amount of time, the economy could eventually begin to dip back into recession. and that is really the big concern here. you've heard president obama talk about those concerns when he has held some of these public campaign events. he held one today to pressure congress to act. he has talked about the fact that this is a really about americans and the economy and preventing the economic recovery from being harmed. milissa? >> kr
so, again, vice president biden heading to the hill. just three hours until we head over the fiscal cliff. the large concern here is the impact that going over the cliff would have on the economy. now economists say look, it's not going to be a windfall on wednesday. it's not going to be a complete disaster all at once. but what could happen is that the markets could begin to respond on wednesday. they're closed of course tomorrow for the holiday. and then over time, the average american could...
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>> you heard vice president biden. the white house has put forth a deal and gotten some republicans is in leadership so go along with this. is a big step. we're going to see the republican party rear its ugly head and see how rogue they want to be in going against the majority of americans. very clear. you look at every poll out there protect social security, medicare, medicaid. in this round, that's exactly what the white house did. republicans want to go against that, they have to deal with it in 2014. they want the wealthiest americans to pay for. that's what will happen in this deal. republicans will have to deal with that down the road this will bring more money into the treasury and won't hurt the middle class. the middle class has been protected in this deal and that's exactly what the president said he would do all along. and this is a monumental move by the republicans if they vote for this, there will only be two republicans that ever voted for a tax increase. for the president to keep this, is it's dig deal.
>> you heard vice president biden. the white house has put forth a deal and gotten some republicans is in leadership so go along with this. is a big step. we're going to see the republican party rear its ugly head and see how rogue they want to be in going against the majority of americans. very clear. you look at every poll out there protect social security, medicare, medicaid. in this round, that's exactly what the white house did. republicans want to go against that, they have to deal...
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biden and mcconnell do know how to speak to each other. and i think if they get 75 or 80 votes in the senate for what they come up with, and you know what? they're not that far apart on this fix, if you will. basically, they seem to be divided on whether to buy down the sequester. but they're not that far apart. and if they get 75 or 80 votes, that's going to mean 30 to 35 republicans. boehner has to put it on the floor. and boehner doesn't have to -- boehner really doesn't have to support the deal, but he does have to put it on the floor, and it will pass. >> michael steele, take it to robert gibbs. and it's great that some of these people can talk to each other, but they still have to go back to those who don't want to play ball, correct? >> that's exactly right. and that's the reality that we've lived with. and i think chuck has put a really interesting political identifier on this thing. this play should have probably always have started in the senate with mcconnell as opposed to relying on the house, given the fractured nature of the
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, the name we haven't heard is vice-president joe biden. what's the significance of them bringing him in in the 11th hour discussion? >> i think it's important because he was in delaware this weekend and all of a sudden, suddenly, rushed back to the white house early today and that's significant because when they had things all boxed up a year and a half ago on the debt ceiling and looked like they'd hit a brick wall, it was joe biden reaching out to mitch mcconnell and bridged the divide and magically had a deal and some senior aides who say joe biden might be the key to unsticking this, afternoon biden and mcconnell worked on the debt ceiling, many years in the senate, obviously, together and that's why they have that relationship, there's some in the white house who call the vice-president the mcconnell whisperer, as if he has some sort of magic potion that bring people together. >> stuart? >> can i just ask you, ed, if there's any deal you've heard of that's bandied around here, any deal at all from either side which would cut spending
, the name we haven't heard is vice-president joe biden. what's the significance of them bringing him in in the 11th hour discussion? >> i think it's important because he was in delaware this weekend and all of a sudden, suddenly, rushed back to the white house early today and that's significant because when they had things all boxed up a year and a half ago on the debt ceiling and looked like they'd hit a brick wall, it was joe biden reaching out to mitch mcconnell and bridged the divide...
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vice president joe biden taken the lead in the talks. negotiating with senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. they spoke and narrowed down the differences. among the points with headway, the tax hike threshold, the estate tax and extending unemployment benefits. the remaining sticking point is rumored to be the automatic spending cuts. collectively called the sequester you have been hearing about poised to kick in tomorrow. let's get to nbc white house correspondent kristen welker there for us. what was the point here? the president decided to come out and that bully pulpit can be a powerful weapon. >> reporter: certainly can be. good afternoon to you, t.j. the president using the bully pulpit. this is a part of the pressure on congress but also democrats who might be skeptical of this compromise that is coming to fruition so he came out today with middle class americans standing behind him and made the argument if we do, in fact, go over the cliff, if the steep tax hikes and spending cuts kick in to effect tomorrow, that the average am
vice president joe biden taken the lead in the talks. negotiating with senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. they spoke and narrowed down the differences. among the points with headway, the tax hike threshold, the estate tax and extending unemployment benefits. the remaining sticking point is rumored to be the automatic spending cuts. collectively called the sequester you have been hearing about poised to kick in tomorrow. let's get to nbc white house correspondent kristen welker there for...
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the joe biden thing, we underestimate him. he's a sitting vice president. >> vice president of the united states. >> vice president of the united states. >> a secret weapon out there. >> it's a weird thing. >> he is very good on the -- people -- he gets caricatured. if you watch him in -- on the stump, he's very good at connecting. >> look. >> he is. he does make mistakes. >> you loved him. >> i disagree. >> you love to mock him. you think he's a joke and done? >> i think he's been built in to the obama organization and how he flourished. i think he has a lot of people in the media that like him. i think if this were -- i hate to play my media bias card but as a republican caricatured much worse than he really is and i just don't see him having -- to stephanie's point, you cannot sort of borrow or live off of or be an heir to somebody else's organization. >> bush temporarily did it with reagan in '88 and didn't hold. >> nowadays you have to build and manage and own your own organization. >> i agree with that. there is no heir
the joe biden thing, we underestimate him. he's a sitting vice president. >> vice president of the united states. >> vice president of the united states. >> a secret weapon out there. >> it's a weird thing. >> he is very good on the -- people -- he gets caricatured. if you watch him in -- on the stump, he's very good at connecting. >> look. >> he is. he does make mistakes. >> you loved him. >> i disagree. >> you love to mock him. you...
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go biden. i like this. cinc is a network. >> king is an independent. >> that's what i'm going to be watching. >> do you see the ce,of the servetive movement? >> i think it's hard for jim demint -- it's like this aol time warner merger. it makes a lot of sense on paper. we'll be able to overcome some of the institutional challenges. it's something that's out in the -- the think tank worl. >> we'll have more from the gaggle coming up. plus, the six-year itch,it's a bedrock of conventional wisdom. or is it just a made-up thing? second term president, supposedly struggling in his midterm. we'll let you know whether you think it's real or simply a coincidence. but, first, our special trivia question. who was the first president and who is the most recent president to officially start a term on a sunday? the answer and more is coming up on the daily rundown. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing.
go biden. i like this. cinc is a network. >> king is an independent. >> that's what i'm going to be watching. >> do you see the ce,of the servetive movement? >> i think it's hard for jim demint -- it's like this aol time warner merger. it makes a lot of sense on paper. we'll be able to overcome some of the institutional challenges. it's something that's out in the -- the think tank worl. >> we'll have more from the gaggle coming up. plus, the six-year itch,it's a...
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. >> lawmakers and vice president biden struggling all day on a deal, but no final vote. at least so far. we'll get the latest from the hill and show what this means for you and your taxes starting tomorrow. >> ali is going to be with us for the next hour or two or three. who knows. we're also watching a very serious health scare for the secretary of state, hillary clinton. she's now hospitalized with a blood clot. doctors are revealing where it is. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. >>> we'll get to the fiscal cliff negotiations. there's movement right now, but first, startling new information we're learning about the blood clot that landed secretary of state hillary clinton in the hospital this new year's eve. her doctor is now revealing it's located in her head between her brain and her skull. let's go straight to our chief medical correspondent, dr. sanjay gupta for the latest. they issued a pretty detailed statement, sanjay. walk us through what we know about the secretary's condition. >> well, what they have told us, just over
. >> lawmakers and vice president biden struggling all day on a deal, but no final vote. at least so far. we'll get the latest from the hill and show what this means for you and your taxes starting tomorrow. >> ali is going to be with us for the next hour or two or three. who knows. we're also watching a very serious health scare for the secretary of state, hillary clinton. she's now hospitalized with a blood clot. doctors are revealing where it is. we want to welcome our viewers in...
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that's another reason why some democrats thought biden maybe gave up too much ground. on the other hand, he put together a good deal in the senate. >> there have been complaints about the way the president negotiated, whether democrats gave up too much, but let's just all agree on one thing, perry, there's not a lot of love lost on either side and the divide is huge. so, is there anything that can be done? is there any indication that this new congress will be any different? >> no. i think some of the calculations from "washington post," only 15 members of the house of representatives, of the republicans, are in districts that president obama won. what that means is most of these house republicans are very accountable to more conservative members in their districts and not necessarily looking for bipartisanship. so, i think the next fight will be just as bloody as this one was. one thing to note in terms of looking at who won, who won and who lost, which is going on a lot in washington. republicans in the last 20 years have said we do not support raising taxes on anyon
that's another reason why some democrats thought biden maybe gave up too much ground. on the other hand, he put together a good deal in the senate. >> there have been complaints about the way the president negotiated, whether democrats gave up too much, but let's just all agree on one thing, perry, there's not a lot of love lost on either side and the divide is huge. so, is there anything that can be done? is there any indication that this new congress will be any different? >> no....
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biden made his way with the senate majority leader. there he is, making his way to a caucus meeting, where vice- president biden tried to sell the steel to his members, and he was able to get a majority of democrats to vote for this deal, all but three. the ap at this photo of the vice-president after that caucus meeting with all the rank-and- file. he came out and game -- and gave a thumbs-up after he was able to talk to the rank and file. there he is. even though the house was on a session, the washington times reports that the country technical felt that this will cut. there is still little bit of time. -- allen in fairfield, illinois, republican caller. all of let's get rid of congress, fire them, vote them out of office. host: why is that? caller: they are not doing them -- doing what we want them to. host: which is what? caller: to the deficit down, and do what we put them in there to do. host: how should that be done, alan? caller: i'm not sure about that. host: social security, medicare, medicaid? caller: they should be on the
biden made his way with the senate majority leader. there he is, making his way to a caucus meeting, where vice- president biden tried to sell the steel to his members, and he was able to get a majority of democrats to vote for this deal, all but three. the ap at this photo of the vice-president after that caucus meeting with all the rank-and- file. he came out and game -- and gave a thumbs-up after he was able to talk to the rank and file. there he is. even though the house was on a session,...
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on the democratic side, vice president biden, secretary of state, hillary clinton, bennett, jerry brown, elizabeth warren, and angus king who is an independent but will caucus with the democratics on the republican side. marco rubio, mike pence, jeb bush, and soon to be former senator from south carolina jim demint. joining me now, our end of the year gaggle, crystal lizza, perry bacon, stephanie cutter was the deputy campaign manager for obama's campaign, and madden was a senior adviser for romney's campaign. hello. happy new year, although we asked all of you to pick, i threw out my dozen and i asked you to pick two you were going to feedback. we're not going to do the 2016 conversation now, but we'll do it in a few minutes. who are the few who jumped out at you? >> i'm a little nierdy, so i picked michael bennet, the colorado senator, because he's the head of the committee which means he's tasked with trying to again keep a democratic senate majority, going to be difficult. you have 20 democratic seats up, only 10 republican seats up. >> and he wants to be senate majority leader some
on the democratic side, vice president biden, secretary of state, hillary clinton, bennett, jerry brown, elizabeth warren, and angus king who is an independent but will caucus with the democratics on the republican side. marco rubio, mike pence, jeb bush, and soon to be former senator from south carolina jim demint. joining me now, our end of the year gaggle, crystal lizza, perry bacon, stephanie cutter was the deputy campaign manager for obama's campaign, and madden was a senior adviser for...
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yet you see vice president biden on the hill yesterday dealing with the fiscal cliff. if you're going to have two more months of positioning on the fiscal cliff, how deep does the president go on that or does he go on immigration or gun control or energy which he said yesterday is another priority in his state of the union speech and really push? because the white house has to prioritize and right now the economy continues to be the number one priority for the foreseeable future. >> jill, if this fiscal cliff bill does get done is the new congress going to be more or less likely to work with the president on his second term agenda? >> well, the president is going to have more senators to work with, 55 as opposed to 53. that doesn't mean he'll have an easy time of it because republicans can block anything they want in the senate. it depends on what lessons if any republicans took from the election. i do think that the principle gap is very deep and so i'm not sure that we're going to see a kumbaya situation. but as i say, there are some advantages for republicans in mak
yet you see vice president biden on the hill yesterday dealing with the fiscal cliff. if you're going to have two more months of positioning on the fiscal cliff, how deep does the president go on that or does he go on immigration or gun control or energy which he said yesterday is another priority in his state of the union speech and really push? because the white house has to prioritize and right now the economy continues to be the number one priority for the foreseeable future. >> jill,...
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that is exactly what vice president biden is hearing right now. the key question is how deep and how broad that is. it will be interesting to see whether they come out of this meeting thinking that they need to rewrite a couple of points in the bill which would put off any deal tonight yet again. if they have to go back to republicans because of what they are hearing in the room that is bad news fora deal and you suspect the longer this goes on the more likely that is what is being discussed. >> bret: i agree with you. this is actually a long meeting at 10:40 when you are supposed to potentially move legislation to the senate floor tonight to take action potentially for the house to act tomorrow. stephen dinal with the washington times. thank you very much. i'm getting a lot of tweets from people who just are tired of fiscal cliff coverage. they just want to see megyn kelly and bill in times square dancing gangnam style or whatever they are doing. >> happy new year. >> take me out of fiscal cliff, washington. >> see yew in a minute, bret. happy ne
that is exactly what vice president biden is hearing right now. the key question is how deep and how broad that is. it will be interesting to see whether they come out of this meeting thinking that they need to rewrite a couple of points in the bill which would put off any deal tonight yet again. if they have to go back to republicans because of what they are hearing in the room that is bad news fora deal and you suspect the longer this goes on the more likely that is what is being discussed....
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the democrats are said to be going in now and that vice president joe biden who, of course, was key in making the senate deal happen, will be in that caucus, we're told. big questions, though, still outstanding. when might the house vote on this deal? can speaker boehner come up with the votes to pass it? or will republicans try to amend it and end send it back. good day. happy new year. i'm chris jansing. there are a lot of moving parts on capitol hill. let's get right to nbc's luke russert who is on the hill and where things stand. first, let's listen into the start of this session. >> the speakers are in washington d.c., january 1, 2013. i hereby hereby appoint the honorable robert j. dole to act as speaker in temporary on this day, signed john a. boehner, speaker of the house of representatives. >> the prayer will be offered by our chaplain father conroy. >> let us pray. eternal god, we give you thanks for giving us another day, a new year. the political struggles of the past year have revealed the divisions that exist in our nation. there are many american citizens who are angry,
the democrats are said to be going in now and that vice president joe biden who, of course, was key in making the senate deal happen, will be in that caucus, we're told. big questions, though, still outstanding. when might the house vote on this deal? can speaker boehner come up with the votes to pass it? or will republicans try to amend it and end send it back. good day. happy new year. i'm chris jansing. there are a lot of moving parts on capitol hill. let's get right to nbc's luke russert...
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vice president joe biden and mitch mcconnell are at the center of the talks. and we're locked in urgent negotiations late last night while the senate has just reconvened while the house is on standby. good morning, sir. if it comes down to a vote, you're the one who will count the votes as the house minority whip. what are you hearing from your senate counterparts this morning? any signs of progress there? >> there are some signs of progress. we have heard that there is another offer on the table by the administration to reach agreement. in terms of the specifics, i don't know all the specifics. some of which i'm not too happy with. some of which i don't think make the math work, but i think the most important objective is of the administration's and to not go over this cliff, to make sure working americans don't get a tax increase tomorrow and to make sure that those on unemployment who have been unable to find a job have some help in the week ahead. i think we need to keep our powder dry to remain positive. there's still time to act and we need to reach agre
vice president joe biden and mitch mcconnell are at the center of the talks. and we're locked in urgent negotiations late last night while the senate has just reconvened while the house is on standby. good morning, sir. if it comes down to a vote, you're the one who will count the votes as the house minority whip. what are you hearing from your senate counterparts this morning? any signs of progress there? >> there are some signs of progress. we have heard that there is another offer on...
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joe biden does not often serve in his capacity as president of the senate. but today was ditch. today joe biden had an incredibly important job to fulfill. >> do you solemnly swear to support and defend the constitution of the united states against all enemies, foreign and domestic, that you will bear true faith and allegiance to the same, that you take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion, and that you will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which you're about to enter, so help you god? >> i do. >> congratulations, senator. >> thank you. >> and welcome. >> congratulations, senator. stayed the united states senate got a brand new member. democratic -- democrat brian schatz of hawaii. senator schatz was appointed by hawaii's governor last night to fill the vacant seat of senator daniel inouye, who passed away a week ago. brian schatz got on air force one late last night. he touched down in washington early this morning. and he was a senator by this afternoon. that is a big day. so senator schatz, welcome to washingto
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no, no, no, joe biden was asked a question and answered with a moral legitimate move, a truthfulness that had these remarkable effects that it pushed the president to come clean about his personal evolution, i think that personally made a difference in the campaign. >> my visual on the campaign, we actually had a visual assist on this. "the washington post" said that obama and his allies spent far less than mitt romney, but got far more in key markets, targeting key democratic groups such as the young working voters in spring states. i think what they did, knowing why they were going, something we never saw before. the worst move of the 2012 campaign? >> i got two things on this. one is, i think my answer is choosing paul ryan to be the vice presidential nominee. just because a, it never gave him the list that anything thought it would be. he effectively neutered mitt romney, whether it was the stuff with todd aken, or the ryan budget, nowhere to run away from it. >> alex and i were on the same wavelength, picking paul ryan, not only for those reasons, but mitt romney went on to lose
no, no, no, joe biden was asked a question and answered with a moral legitimate move, a truthfulness that had these remarkable effects that it pushed the president to come clean about his personal evolution, i think that personally made a difference in the campaign. >> my visual on the campaign, we actually had a visual assist on this. "the washington post" said that obama and his allies spent far less than mitt romney, but got far more in key markets, targeting key democratic...
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joe biden put that boy in his place. it reminded me of kathy bates. >> the part where she hits it car. >> he just spanked the guy. it was fantastic. the jack kennedy line was epic. it was my favorite line of the debate. >> i went into the debates cynical. biden is not going to say anything to paul ryan. he said that line and i was like oh! he said it! >> part of the reason this was happening is because we were so sad on the left after the first one. we just have to take a look at president obama during that first debate. it was -- it was a sad moment. the reason we were so excited about biden, what was going on there? >> i'm glad we had the sad drama. it sound tracked to 2012. i feel like biden is like a fun dad but then was able in the debate to get away with being angry dad. he's like fun, laughing, i'm kind of condescending to this guy and then with the jack kennedy line, like seriously, don't mess around. >> that's the thing. joe biden is your crazy uncle joe. it's not a joke. you go to thanksgiving dinner and mentio
joe biden put that boy in his place. it reminded me of kathy bates. >> the part where she hits it car. >> he just spanked the guy. it was fantastic. the jack kennedy line was epic. it was my favorite line of the debate. >> i went into the debates cynical. biden is not going to say anything to paul ryan. he said that line and i was like oh! he said it! >> part of the reason this was happening is because we were so sad on the left after the first one. we just have to take...
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i do think that joe biden is formidable. he really was our secret weapon out there. >> eleven -- >> ohio, iowa, wisconsin. he lived in those states. >> i'm not betting on andy cuomo over joe biden, a sitting vice president. i know that the rest of this -- >> i would. i would definitely -- >> i'm just saying. >> that's the same argument we made for hillary clinton. well, she's going to have the money. she's got the establishment and all good people around her. andrew cuomo does not come into that race as formidable as hillary clinton looked in 2007. >> what about a republican? how do you prevent a republican primary picture that you guys had, which i think a lot of you folks and romney believe the -- >> look, i think the debates, actually, were -- became a bit of a side show there, and if you looked at the volatility of the electorate at the time and how the -- and how the numbers went up and down based on debate performances and the side show that they became, i think that was something that had a very big effect. i think th
i do think that joe biden is formidable. he really was our secret weapon out there. >> eleven -- >> ohio, iowa, wisconsin. he lived in those states. >> i'm not betting on andy cuomo over joe biden, a sitting vice president. i know that the rest of this -- >> i would. i would definitely -- >> i'm just saying. >> that's the same argument we made for hillary clinton. well, she's going to have the money. she's got the establishment and all good people around her....
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vice president biden is at the white house, he is at work. and there have been phone calls between the two -- between mcconnell and the vice president and harry reid spoke to the president as well. but you know, everything gets done electronically now, that is how it works, answer to your question. >> jessica, i appreciate it, blackberry probably does too. >> when the blackberry actually works. >> see how this all -- how it all plays out and hopefully soon, jessica yellin, thank you very much. >>> next, more voices and they weigh in on where we stand in this negotiation process. stay here. these new phones they got us are great. yeah, its the galaxy note ii. you can do two things at the same time. you can watch videos and text. or you could watch the earnings report and take notes, like we're supposed to. so... can i get it? yeah. okay either of you put together the earnings report yet? yes, me totally. what? why don't you tackle the next quarter. you eat yet? polynesian? pu pu platter? yup! keep up the good work. i will keep up the good work
vice president biden is at the white house, he is at work. and there have been phone calls between the two -- between mcconnell and the vice president and harry reid spoke to the president as well. but you know, everything gets done electronically now, that is how it works, answer to your question. >> jessica, i appreciate it, blackberry probably does too. >> when the blackberry actually works. >> see how this all -- how it all plays out and hopefully soon, jessica yellin,...